Jul 21, 2005

Tivo and the Beast

How long will it take for XM or Sirius Radio to have a Tivo like product? If you hear a song that you like, you can press a button to record it and it stores about 4 hours worth of music. I'm surprised no one has come up with this yet? Charge an extra 5 dollars per month for this service, and you have your own little XM jukebox. I don't believe that there are any copyright issues that would be different than the Tivo product for TV. Any insight out there?

Secondly, does anyone know how much a case of Beast is? It must of gone up to $7.00 a case since they are now advertising during the World Series of Poker. The Milwaukee Best Poker Cam cracks me up everytime I see it. Why do they advertise? Who is in their marketing department? Why waste the money for ads, when the only people who buy their beer are poor college students? Would anyone on this site buy a case now, because of their ads? I do have to say that their ads are pretty funny.

7 comments:

The Dudeman said...

That's a great thought, but I'm inclined to believe that the music industry wouldn't allow a satellite radio Tivo-like service. They're already shitting bricks over the fact that people can copy digital music from CD's or downloads or whatever. Sure, you can still record songs directly from normal radio, but the quality of XM/Sirius is so much better that they'll never allow it. I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that you'll see a drastic change in control and distribution of music before you see a Tivo-type system for satellite radio.

The Dudeman said...

In fact, now that I think about it, I recall seeing somewhere that one of them (XM or Sirius, not sure which) used to offer a receiver that you could plug into your PC and listen to broadcasts. However, they stopped offering it, presumably because people were doing exactly as you suggested - recording broadcasts to listen to later. Apparently it's only okay to listen to the content they're broadcasting exactly when they broadcast it.

The Dudeman said...

Actually Mark, I think you're confusing two different issues on the TV topic. Tivo has recently, of their own accord, made a change to their systems so that when you fast forward through commercials of Tivo'd programs you see a logo from the company running that ad and you can hit a button on your remote to download a full length commercial from that company and watch it on your Tivo. What a great idea.

The "flags" you mentioned that they're pushing for DVR's (and actually, any other device you can use to view or record programming) is what they have been calling the Broadcast Flag. Content creators can set that flag in the original broadcast. The flag tells your DVR,TV, whatever at what quality and to how many devices it can output that broadcast. So Sony Pictures could release a High Def movie for broadcast and set the flag so that the actual, full-resolution High Def signal could only be output to other devices that support the broadcast flag. Any other devices might be able to access a regular, Standard Def version of the show, but not the High Def version.

Several months ago the FCC passed a mandate requiring all new hardware to support the broadcast flag, but that was later shot down in the courts because they ruled that the FCC didn't have the power to make that mandate. Now the music and movie industry are lobbying congress to get them to pass a law that would give the FCC that power. Total bullshit if you ask me.

Anonymous said...

Great idea Derek.

Linda Nelson

dzahn07 said...

I tend to disagree with you all on this. Napster and Apple allow you to download music for a fee now. With XM, you are already paying a fee to listen to the music. Add a couple more dollars to the monthly cost and allow to store it on the receiver. I don't see how this is different than those Internet sites that charge.

The Dudeman said...

It's different because on the internet sites they can track which songs you download, who downloaded them and how many times they were downloaded. Remember that the internet is a 2-way communication, but radio is only 1-way. They broadcast a signal and anyone that can receive that signal can listen to it, but can't broadcast anything back to them. Well, I suppose technically you can, but they're not listening for it. If you record content from a radio broadcast they have absolutely no way of knowing what you've recorded or who recorded it.

dzahn07 said...

I will disagree with you again Dudeman. Not everyone can receive this signal. You actually have to buy a special receiver and then pay a monthly fee. Just like Tivo.

And on the Internet, I know that Apple charges per song, but Napster charges a monthly fee. What is so different between Napster and a Pay Radio Program.